This was a gift to an enthusiastic photographer with a lot of photos to store. It was greatly appreciated and he says it works great.
I would buy this again.
Easy to use.
GREAT DEVICE TO HAVE
The fact that it can hold up to 8,000 photos is great for safe keeping.
Dont let priceless photos be lost
Priceless photos can be lost forever if a computer crashes. This nifty little gadget, the "Photo Vault," is easy to plug into a USB port and will save thousands of photos---up to 16,000, depending on the size you buy. Even documents and videos can be stored in it, although they take up more space in the "vault." When you want to retrieve your photos, simply plug the Photo Vault into your new computer.
Easy to use--just plug in and download
Not as easy as it sounds
With an Apple product theres more to it than what the box says you have to click on where you want to get the photos from
Everyone needs this!
I was so happy so see a product like this as is much easier than worrying about backing up photos myself.
This REALLY works!
Exactly as promised! Amazingly easy - just plug in, hit start and watch the counter add up your photos! The PK16 held 23,631 photos for me. More than the 16,000 estimate. There were so many photos that I had completely forgotten I had! Nice walk down memory lane.
Now, Im going to buy more of these for gifts!
easy to use
this was very easy to use...just plug in to computer and a few clicks and all photos are downloaded. Piece of cake!
Pleased with purchase
Love that it does not copy duplicate pictures
Tricky at First
I have a 2004 Dell with Windows XP and now that Microsoft has stopped updating, I was worried I might lose my photos should the hard drive crash. I had trouble at first because I have 3 different photo programs and the thumb drive was only picking up the photos from my Kodak program. I moved the HP and other programs jpgs to the Kodak program and was able to download all -- now I have to find some kind of photo kiosk to be able to view independant of my computer.
The Photo Vault
This was a gift I got for my son but I dont think
he has used it yet although it should be very practical because he takes a lot of photos of his two little children.
Easy way to back up all your memories
I would buy this product again
What is really great about this product is that it will search your computer to find all of the pictures wherever they may be. When you update again it will find those that you changed and any new ones.
Helpful for mom and family pictures and helpful to dad that can use these pictures to demonstrate how product is packaged carefully, etc.
Great Product. Even though one out of seven did not work - Ill send it back and not hesitate to buy another.
Easy to use. Performs as advertised.
just what they were looking for
my gift list people couldnt be more pleased with the picture keeper
i will be placing an order for one for myself
The Photo Vault
I plugged the "vault" into my hard drive and it copied pictures but confused the computer and caused both computer and internet service to crash. Ive spent 3 days getting computer and internet service fixed. Would be afraid to use again
An easy to use solution to storage of digital photos.
Easy to use
Other than I had a hard time getting it to click on Sharper Image to answer the question, "Where was this item purchased?", it was very easy to use. It did a quick software update and then I started the Backup. I backed up around 3000+ pictures and it was fast. I was surprised that it also showed me the number of duplicate photos I had. I wanted a secure backup to my pictures and this was ideal.
The Photo Vault captures it all!
The Photo Vault provided the right product in order to collect all the photos cluttering up my camera and smartphone. Easy to use and very portable between office and home. A really good product for use by everyone.
A photo vault!! Great idea!!
Love this product! Love having all of my photos in one place. Love being able to sneak and get pictures from family to use for other kinds of gifts and they dont even notice!! Photos are memories.....this could be a "Life Book"!!!
Easy to use.
great photo storage
In addition to my own family photos, as photo historian for my childrens school, I take a LOT of photos throughout the year. While I enjoy off-site storage of my files, I need to maintain quick access to many pix for future use, which can take up loads of space on my hard drive. Sorting through thousands of photos to identify those that can be removed or stored only off-site takes up time. The ease of using the Photo Keeper flash drive is great. I just it plug-in, it stores ALL the pix, and keeps them easily accessible. What a great, simple product!
Can review pictures easily and the quality of the picture is excellent.
I would buy this product again
The Picture Keeper was very simple to use - just plug it in and it seeks out all of your computer saved images and saves them to the Picture Keeper zip drive. So much easier than the hunt and peck method for saving photo files.
I often want to have a photo handy to paint or sketch or if family to share. This was so easy to use, I have not made separate files yet but appears easy also. I ordered another because I did not realize how many photos I had saved through the years.
Good investment for keeping photos safe.
I loved how easy it was to use. All I had to do was plug it into my computer and my picture where loaded in a snap. I have nothing really negative about the product.
Photo vault is the best
I Love this photo keeper . I save pictures and have them put on a DVD and
Enjoy watching my loved ones and memories whenever I want. It also makes a wonderful and unusual gift.
Great product to have
Easy to install and upload pictures
All of your photos/images in one place!
Love the fact that it automatically locates your photos and stores them in one place! Easy to use, fairly speedy at downloading. Wish you could organize photos into folders.
I love this!
The Photo Vault is so much better than a regular flash drive. It seeks out the type of photos and documents you specifiy and loads them on the USB in the same way they are organized on your computer. It is very easy to use and gives me piece of mind knowing my photos are backed up in case my hard disk crashes--which has happened! I love it! Well worth the price.
Excellent fur saving precious pictures
I use this to make DVD,s for friends
IM A HUGE PICTURE TAKER OF OUR FAMILY. I WANTED SOMEWHERE SAFE TO STORE THESE PICTURES...LOVE THE SECURITY IT GIVES ME THAT MY PICTURES WONT BE LOST.
Very easy photo storage
Easy to use and compact. Great way to keep backup of all your digital photos.
Works just as advertised.
True plug and play. Just plug it in and the included software finds all your photos and backs them up. A real no-brainer. It does all the work for you and is a great additional resource to secure your treasured photos. The Photo Vault recognizes duplicates and only stores one original. Retrieval of photos is as easy as the storage was.
The only con that I see is that the Photo Vault is very light weight and I have concerns about its long term durability, but for now Im very satisfied.
I would recommend!
Product storage estimate disapointing !
Using the Picture Keeper as a traveling photo
album and in my office photo frame. The instructions were easy to follow but the devise practically runs itself. The literature states
that it will store approximately 8000 pictures but
mine was full at a little over 4000. That was disapointing!
A simple solution to a big problem
This is so easy to use. Just plug it into your computer and thats it. All your pictures are now backed up. If your computer crashes or you get a new one this is perfect for saving those pictures.
Gives you a safe secure feeling
I first thought the price was a little high, but once I had my pictures backed up and realized how easy it was and what a secure feeling it gave me, it was money very well spent. I plan to buy more as gifts for friends and family.
All in one place
Wanted a way to keep all my pictures in same place.... Looks like this should do that. Still working on it, lots of pictures in different places. At first thought it was expensive but if I can put all in one place.... I think it will be worth it!!
Easy to use as 1, 2, 3!!
Easy to use. This product provides a strong sense of security for photos that can never be replaced.
fast fast fast
I was skeptical at first, and initially disappointed as the device did not pick up all the photos on my computer as promised. However, one very quick very effective call to their customer service department turned that all around. I spoke with a live human being who handled the technical aspects as well without having to transfer me elsewhere. They answered the phone quickly, knew the solution quickly, and spoke to me with unscripted candor. The device then worked within seconds to get a thousand photos copied. It was actually quite stunning.
Over time I have pictures spread over several computers. The Photo Vault finds them and saves them in one place.
Im a little weary when it comes to technology, but I have been using a digital camera for the past couple of years. This is by far the easiest way to back up my photos. I plug it in, press a button, and this thing automatically finds and backsup my photos. Thanks Sharper Image!
PHOTO VAULT MIRACLE
THIS ITEM GIVES ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAFEGUARD MY MOST PRECIOUS GRANDSONS PICTURES OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. TECHNOLGY IS EVER GROWING AND I AM HAPPY TO REPORT I AM USING THE MIRACLE INVENTION.
This does what it says. It finds your files and stores them in the four major libraries. You can do that with any jump drive, however. The advantage to this is that it has photo recognition, that greatly reduces duplicates. It also has advance settings that help you find relocated files due to os changes and software glitches. The customer service department is the best I have ever dealt with. They are easy to get ahold of and connect to your computer in real time without the hassle you get from other companys. Worth the money if you have picture or file recovery problems, if not you can use a cheaper, larger jump drive and sort duplicates yourself.
sleek, good looking, easy to use
Great device, but deceiving on amount of photos it can hold. The PK16 says it will hold 16,000 photos, which is true but only if you use a 4 mega pixel camera. I dont know of many of those around. I was only able to get about 3,500 on the PK16.
Works flawlessly...as advertised
You basically insert it into the USB slot and it is easy to use.
My iPhone was filled up with all my pictures ...bought the picture keeper to add all my photos from the computer, iPhone and iPad. User friendly, read all your pictures and copies without duplications...
Just as advertised.
Just plug it in to a USB port and it does its thing, no fuss no muss. Its great to have an additional repository for my photos, one that is dedicated to photos only. Love it.
The photo vault
Storing photos from 2 computers.
I loved how easy this product was to use, and based off the other reviews I didnt expect it to hold 8000 photos, but it was full after 1600...I definitely didnt expect it to be so few. Having said that I will probably still buy another one for the rest of my pictures.
Grabbed all of the photos on my MAC
Able to mail the product to friends.
Used this product to back up all my photos on my PC and my laptop. I should have bought the larger size as I ran out of space too quickly.
Great for printing smartphone pics to share with parents
Not good enough!
Item is very compact and easy to use and priced well BUT it doesnt hold as many pics as advertised - a disappointment. Now Ill have to buy a second one.
My family refers to me as the paparazzi, I am always taking pictures. The photo vault gives me peace of mind knowing that I am saving all my pictures.
The Photo Vault
Load all pictures we want to save in one area away from the computer. Prevents hacking.
Purchased as a gift and liked
This will allow for children to store all the family pictures
So easy to use!
works great and makes finding pictures that are all over the computer easy to find- now all in one spot
Exactly as advertised
Easily manages retrieving photos from multiple devices without duplicating photos.
One literally just plugs it in and sits back and watches. Duplicates are not copied. When the first Picture Keeper was full, I ordered a second, which I received promptly. The second Picture Keeper picks up right where the first one left off.
I would buy more picture keepers, however, I do wish it was easier to organize pictures once on the device. Picture keeper organizes them just as they are on your computer, but part of my issue with my pictures is that they arent in any type of order on my computer.
A great tool...Everyone should have one.
I needed a place to store my thousands of pictures and this allows me to put them all in one place...
The Photo Vault works smoothly so far
So far, a week or so, the Vault has organized my disorganized pictures. Quick and easy to use.
No Reason to be Skeptical
I gave this item as a birthday gift to my brother. He told me he was about to hand it to his "tech savvy" teenage son to help him... when he plugged it in just to see what it would do. To his amazement, the device booted right up and located almost 250k photos. He was excited about the technology and now I want one for everyone I know.
Easy to use
Just plug it in and it finds all your pics! Very easy to use. However, I have had a problem , I can not, after numerous attempts, download the software to my android phone. I am supposed to be able to save my phone pics also.
This works great!
Just pop in and it really does locate all your photos and home movies and stores them all conveniently in one place. They are easily accessable when you want to find a particular photo or movie.
It was a great product and I recommend that
To save photo and documents
I purchased this product previously for my daughter. It held 8,000 photos. I just purchased the one that holds 16,000 photos. It will not duplicate the photos she downloaded on the first vault. Great way to store photos safely in case your computer ever crashes.
Would recommend to others.
Just needed a safe compact place to save memories.
Not mine, a gift...
Got this for my hubby for his birthday and we will share...he is very excited about it and it holds a lot of pictures...!!!
I would purchase this again
Easy to use. Holds a lot
Photo Vault is a MUST
I wish I had gotten this YEARS ago! I am buying a few more!
Handy device saves time
This wonderful device helps me transfer photos to our netbook. We use the netbook as a running slide show and love to see our current photos. This saves me hours of copying to disc and loading onto the netbook.
Amazingly easy organizer
What an easy way to clear memory from my hard drive while organizing photos into one central location.
I only wish that they were available in multiple color choices making it even easier to identify personal from professional from travel, etc. Otherwise, FABULOUS. Ordering more for the reasons listed above: further sorting.
This product is awesome !!!
GREAT GIFT ITEM! I bought two of these to give out as gifts. My mother in law, who needs help often with her computer, used it and loved it, After seeing it in action, I ended up keeping the second one for myself!! I will now order several more.
I would buy this again!
I just put the Picture Keeper in my computer and it found all my pictures and now Im comfortable I will not loose any of my photos should something go wrong with my computer!
The Photo Vault is all youll need
Transfer of the photos was easier than just about anything Ive done with a computer and software.
I had 3998 photos on my computer and the picture keeper took no more than 12 minutes to down load them on the pictures keeper.
Good product, good price
Easy to use,
Simple to operate
Easier to store
Very satisfied customer, would recommend and order again.
Its ease of use was important for me--as well as the compact design. I wish it would have held more images.
A fast, easy way to save pictures.
it downloaded all my pictures from all over the place. It took a while but now they are in one place. Great product, it did it all by itself.
Received exactly what I expected, as described. It pulled all of my images off the computer without having to select them myself.
Theyre in the Vault!
All of those precious old family photos, some over fifty years old, are safe in the vault. I dont have to worry so much about a fire wiping out scores of photo albums anymore or my computer crashing and losing sll of them.
Easy, fast solution
I have a huge amount of photos on my hard drive. This gives me a chance to move all these photos off the hard drive, yet keep them safe and easily accessible. And it has opened up room on my hard drive.
Great price, and more space than I can use.
Transfered ALL of my photos and pics with a lot of space to spare. Now our prescious memories are safe.
I find it to be a great tool for safe keeping of all your photos with lasting memories.
The only minor issue was that it didnt backup as many photos as it advertises.
All in one
Great product, now all my pics are in one place.
A great product to use
I needed the device to record all of my photos which were in excess of 3000 and it copied all of them so I now have the ability to carry my phone with me
My sister-in-law was thrilled with this photo vault. feels she can travel with it in her purse in case she wants to show someone the pictures! Very excited about it!!!!!
Very handy, easy to use. Compact. Got all my photos in one place now.
Great for family visits
Kind of complicated. Not as user friendly as described . Still a great idea. I really needed one, so I got three.
It is a unique instrument. It searched the computer for the various locations of the photos.. Collated them and put them all on the drive..All2604 of them... Just great
I would buy this product again and again
Wish I had purchased a long time ago!
Great Place to Keep Pictures
Until I discovered the Picture Keeper PK 8, I could never easily find the picture I was looking for on my computer. Now I plug my Picture Keeper into a USB port on my laptop and there are all of my pictures. If I add new pictures to my laptop via download from my camera or from my email or my cell phone, it is a simple task to get them onto my PK. This device is wonderful. All I have to do is plug it in and push the correct button. It recognizes the new pictures.
awesome little flash drive
picture keeper is great because it recognizes duplicates even on other computers
Bought three of these for Christmas gifts. Great idea to store photos.
Great Photo Storage Device
I am using this device to back up pictures from many devices in one compact form. The device is small and easy to use, great!
this is perfect for saving photos
I am always concerned about "losing" our photos on the computer. This product safe guards that and we no longer worry
I wish it would scan selected received email in order to preserve some photos.
A gift for my niece.
I am a non-techy older person. I bought this for
my techy niece who has two little children think-
ing this is a good way for her to save and back
up all the photos she has of them. So I cannot
adequately comment on how well it works, but Im
taking your word for it because all your products
Great device for pictures
It is great because you can find which thumb drive has your pictures on it since it is so clearly labeled. And they can all be in one place.
a nice device to have
I can carry this flash drive with me to work and show off my photos to my co- workers. I like I can carry it any where.
Seems to work as promised
Havent had Photokeeper long enough yet to say much, other than it was easy to get my iPhoto collection to back up.
I would but this product again
I use to have lot of pictures and this product helped me to storage all of them. It is great and i would but it again and again!.
save your pictures
To save family pictures
So Simple to Use!
I initially bought the Picture Keeper for my sister. After a computer crash, she lost all of her pictures. I purchased this item, popped it in my PC and in a matter of minutes I was able to give her back years of memories! So simple to use, yet so effective - it really gives you piece of mind if you store a lot of pictures on your PC and arent very good at backing up or burning disks. The back-up and restore features literally take one or two clicks - and the back-ups are not redundant, so its quick as well! I have now purchased one for myself as well.
This is truly the easiest way to back up all your photos. Just plug it in and it starts working. So simple and easy
The Photo Keeper exactly as advertised!
When I have my 60 years volume of pictures copied into my computer I plan to purchased 3 addiotional drives to backup all of the pictures to give each of my children as a history of our family.
Picture Finder Review
I plugged the Picture Finder into my Mac! Within 30 minutes all 3,000+ pictures were on the Picture Finder! Yea!! This is awesome!!!
A great gift idea!
Having all of my photos on a flashdrive is wonderful, particularly since I did not have to do the work of going through everything on my computer to find my pictures. This gadget does the work for you,
Excellent Product - great Christmas Gift
Have over six thousand pictures great for backup and storage. Easy to retrieve.
LOVE my Photo Vault
Use it to back up photos on my 3 computers.......ONLY PHOTOS, that is the nice part, it searches out PHOTOS ONLY...........
Very pleased with the photo vault.
Easy to use and bought another one for a friend
Great photo organizer for home, work or travel. Makes tracking and filing photos simple and easy.
I stored all my photos in one session.
I can save all pics in one place. This will cut my time trying to find all my pictures at work and at home.
Great for easy gift.
Using as safety precaution so photos on computer wont be lost for some reason. Can carry around and load on another computer, etc.
Does the job easily and efficiently
It worked exactly as advertised and easily found all the photos on my MacBook. But most photos today are several mb large so the the 16G only backed up 8000 photos. I will need to buy several more to completely back up my library and they arent cheap. It remains to be seen if it will prove more durable and effective than a regular thumb drive.
I really like this photo vault, will buy again.
Having my pictures in one place is really nice, before they were scattered & had doubles, or more.
Its a great gift idea and stores photos well!
Easy to use and saves sapce on my computer
Just plug in ans click
Too Easy to Use.
It is true that all pictures will transfer immediately upon inserting the device into the USB port. I dont recall having to do much. The best thing is that no software is required. Great purchase; great investment!
This is a gift, and hasnt been used yet. If it works as described it will be an awesome product
Good for non-geeks
It needs a better description of how the product displays the photos.
Ill buy this product again
Easy to use
Gift worth giving!
I finally have all my pictures on back up all in one place and could add pictures very easily without duplicating.
Photo Vault for Dummies!
I admit Im not the most computer savvy or device savvy person out there. I had previously been trying to download my precious grandchildrens pictures on a flash drive one by one. My husband on numerous attempts had shown me how to block off several pictures an move them over, but as soon as he walked away, so did my memory of how to do what he had just taught me and id revert back to my one by one process. Well having in the thousands of pictures you can imagine how long this was going to take! So I saw a commercial for the Photo Vault and I ordered it IMMEDIATELY. It arrived in mere days and I followed the very EASY instructions and within the time it took me to move two no more than three pictures the old way, Photo Vault had copied ALL MY PHOTOS onto the flash drive!!!!!! Needless to say I was and AM EXTREMELY IMPRESSED AND HAPPY WITH THIS PRODUCT. I WILL DEFINITELY TELL ALL MY FRIENDS AND WOULD MOST DEFINITELY BY THIS PRODUCT AGAIN!!!! As soon as this one is full you can bet Ill be ordering ano
Compact unit with large picture storage capacity
Large storage capacity and such a small product for the price
Great for low tech users
I love this product! Plug it in and it does all the work. I downloaded about 1,500 photos in a matter of minutes. No muss, no fuss.
stores all of my photos safely
Just what I was looking for, perfect.
Satisfied, it fulfills my expectations. Helps me organize photos in one place.
Easy to use. Just plug in and go.
Take the Ease Out of Photo storage!
Just downsidzed my office with alot of old computors!
wanted to save all of the pictures from over the 10 years so this worked out well for me!
I would buy one of these for a friend
Easy to use even if you are not great on the computer
well worth the money for storing all types of data ect.
Perfect unit for storing all pics videos and music and movies all in one spot easy software that auto boots real nice to use. I would get another when needed
Does everything it says
Saved all my pictures in minutes
The Picture Keeper!!
I am not a techie! This picture keeper is my first attempt to save space and protect my photos. I am looking forward to continue using it.
Directions seemed clear to me and I just followed the prompts. All went well.
No more lost photos
I like it so much, I bought 2 as gifts.
pictures pictures and more pictures!!!!
As easy to use as advertised!
It was a pleasurable experience for a person with limited expertise with computers to be able to so easily accomplish what could have been a rather time-consuming job.
Not computer savvy, this is for you!
I plugged the Picture Keeper into my computer and it found all my photos and stored them, all 2500 of them with room for many more. When I add photos the Picture Keeper adds only the new photos. Easy to use especially if youre not computer savvy, a great product.
I like it.
On first use, it did not lead me to the proper sequence for shutting down and removing the PK from the computer. Therefore, I lost some of the pictures.
The Photo Vault
I lived in fear that the many precious family photos would be totally lost if my computer failed. As a novice, even backing them up was daunting to me as I procastinated too much. Then I saw your product and realized my worries were over. When I purchased mine, I also bought my sister one and shared your product information with several friends!
EXCELLENT PHOTO STORAGE, I CAN EVEN USE IT, JUST PLUG AND PLAY.
THE NUMBER OF PHOTOS STORED IS NOT WHAT IS SUGGESTED AND THERE IS NO EXPLANATION AS TO WHY. I DO UNDERSTAND NOW ONCE EXPLAINED BY OTHERS.I HAVE HAD TO PURCHASE A SECOND 8-GB TO FINISH LOADING OUT MY 6,000 PLUS PHOTOS.
HAVING SAID THAT I WILL ALSO STATE THAT THIS LITTLE PIECE OF WORK IS ALL WORTHWHILE AND I AM TOTALLY SATISFIED.
good: ease of use
The Photo Vault is extremely easy to use and gives you the piece of mind knowing your photos are stored in more then one location.
Picture keeper review
Very good quality and very useful product!
I would buy it again!
Very easy to use.
Very easy to use!
Quick and efficient
The product does as advertised and cleans photos from the hard drives of computers.
We will see
Im excited to have all my pictures safe and secure on this item. I have lots and lots to save and it can do the job
I just received the photo vault and Ive only used it once. So far, so good.
Easy transfering of photographs
As an "older" person trying to back up photographs on two computers it was easy and included no ftustrations.
This thing seems to require more tech experience than I have. I just assumed it meant it when it was said to AUTOMATICALLY seek out every photo in your computer & copy it. Seems to only work in each folder opened. I have a LOT of folders in my computer that evidently have to be opened individually. Not quite as automatic as anticipated.
Do not understand the order the pictures are downloaded. They appear to be in random order. Also, many of my pictures are on Windows Photo Gallery and I do not see these being downloaded.
At least some of my pictures are stored on this device, but I am not pleased with the overall performance.
Will store valued photographs on it.
I would reccommend this product
This is an excellent product for storing your precious memories.
So easy to use.
The prompts were easy to use even for those of us who are not computer geniuses.
Great way to store photos!
Great product to free up the memory on your computer!
Easy to install & use
For a non-tech person it was very easy to use.
use for photo storage
I have postponed printing photos because its a hassle locating them in my computer. Theyre in different folders scattered throughout. On the day I received the Photo Vault, I downloaded all of the photos and will print soon. Added benefit is everything is now backed up on this separate drive. Im going to buy another one as a gift for my son who has thousands of photos on his hard drive.
Worked well, just took a llllooooonnnnnggggg time
Plug in and it does the rest. Really easy and just as advertised.
Great item it is small sleek and you CAN CARRY IT WITH YOU ANYWHERE YOU GO.
Finally, easy photo storage
Photo storage for the non-technical person. The description needs more details.
Very pleased with product!
The picture keeper was an ideal gift to myself!! When it came in the mail I went straight to my computer and uploaded all my pictures on to it. I like the fact that no duplicates are installed on the Picture Keeper and that the built in software does all the work for you!! I am extremely pleased with my purchase. I installed 1000 pictures and still have 82% space left for future use.
The Photo Vault is great
I backed up most of my photos, it took quite a while but they are backed up now. The photo vault came with a coupon for a free gift from the actual Picture Keeper company, however the code did not work and the free gift would be $25.00???? not exactly free!
GREAT PHOTO VAULT!
I copy all my picture files. Great product.
Why didnt someone come up with this sooner? I feel great knowing that my photos are protected...my computer wont lat forever!
I use this device for picture backup and so far it has worked as described. Simply plug into USB port and it backs up without duplicates. I liked it so much that I bought another as a gift!
This is a great product for storing your photos in another place besides your computer. We were looking for something like this because our computer storage was getting too full and we needed to free up some space. This is the perfect product for that. Just remenber that if you are going to delete the photos from your computer that you should back them up on 2 seperate devices.
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